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Old 05-28-2016, 03:07 PM
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killdozer may be one of the few people in this world offended by a woman who reached out in love to the most helpless of all.

btw, he mentions Christopher Hitchens who is a well-known atheist. maybe that's the source of the resentment toward Mother Teresa. I'm not Catholic, but there are few people in this world I have respected more.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:23 PM
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Post definately not funny in anyway, and SNL has gotten worse and more crude over time

i guess its kind of like that one in silence of the lambs about fava beans, and thats all i am gonna on that,way to disturbing to quote, errhhhh!!!!!

i find it pretty graphic, thinking about all the wonderful quotes you could use like.......

1.The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Mahatma Gandhi

2.“The butterfly counts not months but moments, and has time enough.”
― Rabindranath Tagore

3. Johnny Castle: Nobody puts Baby in a corner.

See there are quotes that don't use gore!

but if you are going to vote the one in question out you should vote all quotes by Winston Churchill out, because hold your horses, you say i am a ignorant teen or worse ( i am younger than that) who does not know how great he was, well, hear me out, his crimes were a lot worse than that quote.

yes he did make Britain quite prosperous ,( on the backs literally of a lost of enslaved countries like mine, India) and he destroyed the empire of one of the most malevolent forces every - Hitler, he unfortunately committed atrocities himself.

Please read these articles and do your own research to know more. from my own family i am from West Bengal, India, we were starved in the Bengal famine of 1943 when not enough crops grew so that British soldiers could stockpile food with out any need. we were enslaved and much more until August 15 1947 when India had her tryst with density and became independent.
read for the souls of those who have been tortured, raped, starved, converted, killed or more during Winston Churchill rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943

enen a britosh newspaper
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...l-2118317.html

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...w/50657003.cms

even the current president of USA toke out a bust of Churchill that was in the white house, after that i had a lot of respect for his guts, being the granddaughter of a educated man who was jailed at the around the age of 16 by the British for trying to go to a county club.





Perhaps not the place, perhaps a wake up call?
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Old 08-05-2016, 01:06 PM
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Hi, Tilottama2003

How nice to see a bright and curious young person here, solving cryptograms. If you are starting at 13, and solving without hints, you'll be a formidable player before long. It's a high recommendation for the home-schooling you are receiving, judging by the articulate posts you have written, especially the one above.

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Old 08-15-2016, 10:50 PM
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killdozer may be one of the few people in this world offended by a woman who reached out in love to the most helpless of all.

btw, he mentions Christopher Hitchens who is a well-known atheist. maybe that's the source of the resentment toward Mother Teresa. I'm not Catholic, but there are few people in this world I have respected more.
You should read Hitchens' book and learn what a fraud she was.
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:29 PM
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I have far, far better things to do than read Hitchens.
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:32 AM
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That makes two of us, Maradnu.
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Old 08-19-2016, 08:50 PM
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Well then don't go around spouting off about topics you are unwilling to educate yourself about.

Hitchens was a hero. You're only cheating yourself.
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Old 08-19-2016, 09:23 PM
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Default Hitchens was a hero??

Hitchens was a coward. He did a hatchet job on a woman he knew would turn the other cheek. She never would have retaliated. That's no hero.
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Old 08-19-2016, 09:52 PM
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He wrote that book while she was still alive.

Calling Hitchens a coward is ridiculous. He had the guts to tell the truth when nobody else did. Can you name anything Hitchens said that was false? What do you have against people telling the truth. If you think he lied about anything, say what he lied about. She never denied anything in it. No one has disproved anything in it. Mother Teresa was a fraud and there's never anything wrong with exposing a fraud.
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Old 08-21-2016, 01:38 PM
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Default 5 Responses to the Ridiculous Rancor of Some Toward Mother Teresa

The obsession some atheists have with Mother Teresa borders on the monomaniacal.

Even when I was an atheist I thought it quite absurd whenever comfortable first-world atheists would viciously attack a woman who gave up everything to serve the poor and who lived in abject poverty herself.

The idea that this selfless woman was actually a masochistic, self-obsessed lunatic, who loved to watch the poor suffer originated with Christopher Hitchens, largely considered the founder of the New Atheism movement. In fact, virtually every irrational and over-the-top criticism of Mother Teresa that I have read can be traced back to his obsessive hatred of the Albanian nun.

Hitchens has since passed away (please say a prayer for his soul), but unfortunately his pet theories have not; they pop up on Internet forums all the time.

As Mother Teresa’s canonization date approaches, it is likely that this nonsense will spread. Our era is addicted to shock and outrage, so headlines excoriating Mother Teresa will be irresistable, no matter how false.

With that in mind, here are some common charges atheists make to justify hating Mother Teresa, and some handy responses:

1. Mother Teresa’s Canonization Is a “Fraud”: Christopher Hitchens criticized Mother Teresa’s recognition by the Church because the Church sped up her beatification process. He also mocked the idea that a miracle could have come about through Mother Teresa’s intercession.

So? Hitchens was an atheist; would he be satisfied with any process that canonized Mother Teresa or any other saint? Did he believe in any of the miracles that have been attributed to the intercession of the saints, even those with abundant eyewitnesses, verifications by doctors, etc? The answer is no. So why would it matter to Hitchens (or any other atheist) how quickly Mother Teresa was canonized? Even if it were theoretically true that Mother Teresa was a terrible person, why would an atheist care who the Catholic Church canonizes?

2. Mother Teresa “Mismanaged Money”: Mother Teresa’s critics accuse her of mismanaging donations, and as evidence they point to the humble state of the congregation’s homes versus the large donations that are assumed to have been poured into their coffers. Yet no theory is advanced as to exactly how the foundress spent the organization’s money in an unethical way. She certainly did not spend it on herself.

Vatican officials confirm that Mother Teresa donated her congregation’s surplus money to be dispersed through the many avenues through which the Church helps the poor. In other words, she did not hoard the donations she received just for her order; she shared the wealth, which is in keeping with the mission of her organization. Mother Teresa and her sisters are called to minister in a simple way to the poorest of the poor, and if they have extra money it goes to other poor people. I am not sure why this is so offensive unless one is trying to find offense.

3. Mother Teresa’s Homes Are “Abusive”: Critics point to what they call deplorable conditions in the homes the sisters run — a charge that betrays how completely they misunderstand the Missionaries of Charity. The sisters join the poverty of the people they serve. Their mission is not to build state-of-the-art hospitals, or work for political or social change, which many Catholics do. They provide care for children and adults in the most desperate of situations, people who would otherwise be living and dying on the streets. The sisters themselves live in complete and utter poverty, sleeping on the floor and washing their one habit in buckets and drying them overnight.

This criticism often comes drenched in a mind-set of first-world privilege that has no idea what kind of conditions people experience in third-world countries. It also often comes from critics who don’t bother to spend any amount of prolonged time in these situations — more willing to “investigate” her homes than actually show up and work alongside the nuns.

4. Mother Teresa Was a “Fanatic” Who Enjoyed Suffering: When people point to Mother Teresa’s “fanaticism,” they are usually actually pointing to her living out Christian values. Sure, she did this in an extreme, heroic fashion, but that is why she is a saint. Most of us could benefit from emulating, even slightly, her “fanaticism.” Critics who choose to see her remarks on the “gift” of suffering as a newfangled, masochistic theology only reveal a lack of familiarity with a basic Christian idea: that — as demonstrated by the God-man being unjustly tortured and crucified — God brings good from evil, and he is present in a special way among the weakest and the poorest of the poor.

Don’t like this message? It’s not Mother Teresa you have a problem with, it’s Christianity.

5. Mother Teresa Was “Imperfect”: Critics may disagree with Mother Teresa’s philosophies and actions, but none ever seem to point to concrete evidence of malicious intent on her part, and so the ad hominem arguments end with, “she wasn’t perfect!”

Well, of course Mother Teresa was imperfect. This we can all agree on, and I am sure the saint would concur. It is said that she went at least every week to confession. She was a woman who knew she was flawed and made mistakes.

Canonized saints are not supposed to be cookie-cutter perfect. The lives of countless saints prove that canonization is not a stamp of perfection but a recognition of heroic holiness. And the Church believes Mother Teresa was a holy woman, despite her imperfections.

So why exactly is so much ink spilled in order to criticize Mother Teresa when there are far more unsavory characters in the world? The quest for pageviews and the gratification of blind ideology.

This kind of spiteful hatred comes from hearts that have been darkened to reason and evident goodness by a lack of belief in God.

When one sees a person doing good things because he or she believes in God it is reasonable to attribute that person’s good works to those beliefs (even if one happens to disagree with that belief).

What is unreasonable is to assume that a person doing good works has a dark heart full of violence and self-interest simply because one’s own angry heart cannot begin to understand the Gospel, even theoretically.
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