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Old 12-15-2012, 02:37 AM
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yes, he/she's getting cocky

i want to say so much more
however im going to bed
i did say something at the start of this
but then had a soft spot appear
and deleted it
now im wondering if i shoulda
oops should have

ni night everyone

please take care

and my heartfelt condolences to the families
in Connecticut.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:58 AM
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Warning : this is a digression

pretty sure I've mentioned it before - groups of five are a classic way to transmit cipher. Back in the day, many ciphers were sent by unreliable methods and the grouping made it easier to detect and fix errors. As for why 5 in particular, I'm sure it has something to do with the facts that we use a base 10 counting system yet 10 is beyond most people's short term memory, while 5 is not.

That stated, there may be a particular reason this cipher is in groups of 5 so you cannot totally discount that. Especially as in classic systems you'd pad out the last one so that you sent all groups of 5.

As for this cipher, I really haven't looked at it. Had you presented it as a puzzle, I would have but I'm afraid I'm of the belief your homework is your homework and you must sink or swim accordingly. Asking your professor and fellow students for help may be fair game, but trying to enlist outside experts seems....
Continuing to digress, and in case anyone's interested, I just saw this:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20749632

Wartime code in blocks of 5. GCHQ codebreakers gave up and suggest it can't be solved without some sort of key.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:35 AM
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wow....should i give up
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:02 AM
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you mean with this forum?
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:34 PM
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print this thread out
bring it to your professor
print all of it out
have him/her read it
then stand tall and say
i dont understand
can you help me please?
if she/he says no
move on and take the grade you get
and apply the energy you used here
in the rest of your studies and you
will do just fine.

** and no never give up.
never give in
and never say never

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Old 12-18-2012, 09:23 PM
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Thank you, Wise Woman!
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:21 AM
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I guess we never got an answer. I believe pajarito7 was very likely correct and was probably referring to a Hill cipher. If that's true, some linear algebra techniques might help - let me see.... um... yeah last took that in the old abacus days of the 80's. All forgotten.

If this were an extra credit assignment, that might explain the professor professed behavior.
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