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mikehallbackhoe 02-18-2014 12:42 AM

the times they are a changing
 
No, I'm not talking about the song, I'm talking about how the solve rate is getting quicker around here. feb 2008 3rd place time was 56.5 seconds. this month 56 seconds will not get you into the top 20th position. overall, I would say everybody is getting quicker. Back in 2008, 99 seconds would have gotten you into the top 20 spot. keep playing, there's hope for us all :)

Lurker 02-18-2014 08:18 AM

Yep, we all play too much :). Some days, I wish all the records could be reset so new players could have the joy of seeing the plane. Then I remember the two 6-second solves I have floating out there, and change my mind.

It's been a few years since a new batch of quotes went live. Even though I know I haven't seen every quote on the site yet, it would be great to have some brand-new ones so everyone would be on the same footing. Stephen?

universalmom 02-18-2014 10:43 AM

Do you think it has something to do with improvements in browsers?

wvwoman 02-18-2014 10:58 AM

it seems there was a big influx of very fast solvers several months ago--i remember commenting on it in the chat room. it was around the same time as the programmer guy got kicked off, which made me a bit suspicious at the time (but i'm sometimes a suspicious sort, once someone has raised questions). it was also just after a time where lots of "guests" were appearing in chat, asking for help solving puzzles--at the time, i was told that that was common at the start of some school classes, for students to look for help here doing their homework--so that probably has nothing to do with anything.

anyway, it just seemed very unusual that there were so many REALLY GOOD players that started around the same time, and i wondered if a whole class (of cheaters, using that same program) had signed up together. i know--crazy thought, huh?
no one else has ever mentioned anything, though, and i still consider myself a relative 'newbie' here, so i try to keep suspicions to myself.

i guess i'll go with coincidence. for now. 'til i hear otherwise. ha!

Lurker 02-18-2014 04:09 PM

I get suspicious, too, but I think a few people just decided to get good before joining, like I did. Those of us who have been around for some of the previous cheaters can generally spot them. Being able to beat a Bansai record by one or two seconds doesn't make me suspicious. A 7-second solve when the previous record was twice that, then a bunch more in a similar time range, that would raise a red flag.

mikehallbackhoe 02-18-2014 06:25 PM

how does someone cheat?

gryhnd51 02-20-2014 01:49 AM

I believe it would require that you have a built-in "solving" program on your computer....but it seems to me (barely computer-literate) that using it would require more time??

There is also at least one "speaking" platform out there, where you don't have to TYPE!! There are probably more that I just have no awareness of.

I DO think that speeds have increased w/ the advance of technology and super-fast servers....that will probably continue w/ future advances.

All the more reason to stay focused on WHY we come here to play! It "scratches an itch" or keeps our minds active, or gives us a sense of community, or provides us with a daily challenge. I'm sure there are as many reasons for playing as there are players.

No matter how high up the ranks you go there will always be someone who will eventually replace you!! It's kind of an analogy of life, I think.

mikehallbackhoe 02-20-2014 12:20 PM

I'm having a hard time trying to understand why anyone would even want to cheat. There is no prize money, bragging rights are pretty much worthless with the anonymity of the internet,and the only pleasure to be found is the self gratification of actually solving a puzzle yourself. I guess you would have to lump it in with those who derive satisfaction from creating viruses, malware, and other destructive elements of the internet. oh well, I still enjoy watching myself improve at cryptograms, and appreciate the work that must go into making sites like this possible.

abra 02-21-2014 11:09 AM

I became suspicious too, a few months ago. I've decided that people that know a lot more about it than I do, aren't alarmed, so everything must be okay. We know that there are people here who are incredibly good, just because someone is new doesn't mean they can't be really good too.

As for cheating, who knows why people do the things they do? I thought that before the last cheater disappeared he said something about trying to improve his software. That post disappeared along with him, so I can't check to see if I was right.

Annamariah 02-21-2014 01:41 PM

One does get faster with practise, I know this from my own experience :D At first (I found cryptograms in November) my average time was around 200 seconds, in December maybe two minutes, in January a minute and a half and now I'm already under a minute. Nowhere near the fastes ones on this site, obviously, but I'm improving! I even got my first 6 second solve today (too bad the record was 5 seconds by Nanrich!).


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