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kat 08-23-2008 10:57 PM

anyone seen this before?
 
Success Rate: 60%
Average Time: 146 seconds
Record Time: 0 seconds ()
Your Time: 59 seconds

Just curious...maybe it has to do with the new puzzles that Stephen added into the database.:confused:

maradnu 08-23-2008 11:02 PM

As a matter of fact, yes
 
I got the same thing with another puzzle.

I've tried to attach the screen print in a Word doc.

bansaisequoia 08-24-2008 10:25 PM

Attempting to add the attachment
 
Did I split the uprights?

bansaisequoia 08-24-2008 10:30 PM

He shoots, he scores?
 
1 Attachment(s)
Okay, this time I think I got it.

admin 08-24-2008 10:34 PM

Hi folks -

This seems to be related to the new quotes I inserted a few weeks back. I'm looking into it and will post when I have a fix/explanation. Thanks for catching this!

- Stephen

kat 08-24-2008 11:40 PM

thanks!
 
I also thought this was a little strange..

Success Rate: 71.4%
Average Time: 55 seconds
Record Time: 54 seconds (1ARE)
Your Time: 31 seconds


Funny that the average time is only a second slower than the record time...:confused:

bansaisequoia 08-24-2008 11:46 PM

Not so perplexing
 
kat, undoubtedly the cryptogram had a higher average time before your solution of it in 31 seconds. Once this happened, the average time was lowered a bit.

kat 08-25-2008 12:39 AM

you have a point
 
but it still seems awfully close to me...

kat 08-25-2008 01:36 AM

And....
 
I just happened upon this strange statistic as well....

Success Rate: 40%
Average Time: 117 seconds
Record Time: 117 seconds (jmorningside10)
Your Time: 34 seconds

I really don't think that one has anything to do with my score. I think something screwy is going on at this point. Weird.:confused:

Looking back, it just dawned on me that perhaps the newer cryptos that were added are just now starting to show the statistics. Seems logical to me once my pea brain made the connection. Duh. Pencil shavings again.

(some time later....)

Maybe NOT pencil shavings...check THIS one out.

Success Rate: 100%
Average Time: 124 seconds
Record Time: 149 seconds (1ARE)
Your Time: 61 seconds

admin 08-25-2008 02:33 AM

Hi everyone -

This is happening only to new cryptograms added in the past few weeks. The short explanation is that the stats are skewed simply because they've not been played enough times for the statistics to really have any meaning.

The longer explanation is that the "average" time is actually a median time, meaning that we take all solve times, arrange them from shortest to longest, and then select the one in the absolute middle as the median time. This tends to be a much more meaningful statistic than a simple average of all values, since thanks to the "recent games" feature puzzles can often be solved 1 or 2 hours after they were begun, and these longer solve times tend to inflate bare averages.

So, if a puzzle was solved 5 times, and the times were,

31, 56, 58, 78, 1029

... the median time would be 58. (An actual "average" would be 1252 seconds, which you can see is not indicative at all of how most people solved it).

Once we get more statistics in on these new puzzles, these "wacky" stats will wrangle themselves into place.

Also, we don't give record times for unregistered players, though we do include their times when calculating median scores. So it is entirely possible for a record time to be higher than the median time, especially now when so few games have been played.

Again, this issue will resolve itself over time. In the meantime though I may simply just not show statistics until a puzzle has been player 75 or 100 times.

Thanks everyone for catching this - I hope my explanation made sense.

- Stephen


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