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Lurker
11-11-2009, 08:49 PM
There's been so much talk of hard quotes, and people's lists, maybe we can share some of ours.

Here's a starter set.

Alexander Pope: Fix'd like a plant on his peculiar spot, to draw nutrition, propagate, and rot.

Robert Orden: Time flies. It's up to you to be the navigator.

Dorothy Parker: They sicken of the calm that know the storm.

Unattributed: I am a Marxist...of the Groucho tendency.

Gilbert Chesterton: All slang is metaphor, and all metaphor is poetry.

Ernest Dimnet: All serious conversations gravitate towards philosophy.

John Ruskin: Life without industry is guilt. Industry without art is brutality.

nyrhtak
11-12-2009, 09:08 AM
I gleaned jests at home from obsolete farces. - Samuel Johnson :mad:

kat
11-12-2009, 08:35 PM
Unattributed:

"Rebuke with soft words and hard arguments."

Lurker
11-13-2009, 01:55 AM
"Ten censure wrong, for one that writes amiss" - Alexander Pope

Lily H
11-13-2009, 04:09 AM
Artemis Ward: Why is this thus? What is the reason for this thusness?

pootie49
11-16-2009, 06:00 AM
Ben Franklin

Clearly spoken Mr. Fogg; you explain English by Greek.

Avg solve time: 371 secs, solve rate: 10.8 %

w9wwj
11-16-2009, 07:51 PM
There's been so much talk of hard quotes, and people's lists, maybe we can share some of ours.

Here's a starter set.

Alexander Pope: Fix'd like a plant on his peculiar spot, to draw nutrition, propagate, and rot.

Robert Orden: Time flies. It's up to you to be the navigator.

Dorothy Parker: They sicken of the calm that know the storm.

Unattributed: I am a Marxist...of the Groucho tendency.

Gilbert Chesterton: All slang is metaphor, and all metaphor is poetry.

Ernest Dimnet: All serious conversations gravitate towards philosophy.

John Ruskin: Life without industry is guilt. Industry without art is brutality.
where is the fun, the challenge? I enjoy a puzzel that is an "Obnoxiously difficult quote" At 62 I like to think I can still reason them out; I may not
be a speed demon like some but in time I get them done

puppywoo
12-13-2009, 09:08 AM
I can't list the obnoxiously difficult ones - I couldn't solve them.

AmberRose
12-13-2009, 09:27 AM
I have discovered that some of the "easy" rated puzzles can be harder to solve than the "difficult" ones!

It takes me a lot of time to figure out where to start?:o

Which leads me into yet another newcomer question, is there a way to get the cursor to automatically go to the first letter of the puzzle, obviously positioning my mouse will do that -- but I am just wondering if there is a keyboard short-cut I can use?

Lurker, the tab doesn't work for my laptop. But I will check the other forum posts for helpful hints, thanks.

Lurker
12-13-2009, 05:38 PM
I'm on a Mac, so some of my shortcuts are different. Try Tab.

As for where to start, there are lots of helpful hints in other threads. Try finding "the" or any contractions. The most frequent letter is E most of the time.

LiveLoveLaugh
12-13-2009, 06:22 PM
you seem to have the knack of where to start

justplayin
12-13-2009, 06:53 PM
This one threw me off by having three single letters:

"Whenever A annoys or injures B on the pretense of saving or improving X, A is a scoundrel."
— Henry Louis Mencken

Also, not long ago I had one with "o clock" with no apostrophe. I kept trying to make the single letter an "I" or an "a."

Lurker
12-27-2009, 03:57 AM
Antipathy, dissimilarity of views, hate, contempt, can accompany true love.

- J. August Strindberg

Lurker
12-28-2009, 05:39 AM
Pride that dines on vanity, sups on contempt. - Ben Franklin

Solve rate is 14.5%, which isn't terribly low.
Average solve time, 399 seconds. That is the highest average I've seen. Anyone find one higher?


PS: digirl has the record at 28 seconds.

mark
12-29-2009, 05:37 PM
I get really frustrated with Alexander Pope's archaic, backward grammatical style. It's like Yoda smoked a fattie and decided to write some poetry. If quotations are worthy of the annals of time I think they should at least be grammatically sound. Forgive me if I have offended any Pope fans but this guy just isn't my cup of tea at all.

kat
12-29-2009, 11:00 PM
I can't stand his quotes!:mad:

mark
12-30-2009, 03:21 AM
good old Ben Franklin just whipped me good...

"Use no hurtful deceit - think innocently and justly and if you speak, speak accordingly."
— Benjamin Franklin

This one took me over 2000 seconds to solve. I just couldn't get a start on it. I was using Ts and Ps in those double letter spots and just couldn't figure it out...I finally got "innocently" and the rest fell together.

mark
12-30-2009, 01:36 PM
"I am his Highness dog at Kew; pray tell me, sir, whose dog are you? "
— Alexander Pope

What the hell is this?!? I swear this guy should have been hung!

bansaisequoia
12-30-2009, 11:55 PM
Actually, this quote didn't seem too bad to me, either. It's got an "I" in it, and I've actually heard of the Kew Gardens before. I think someone once showed me their boring vacation slides or something. Surfing the net, I also discovered that there's actually another Kew Gardens located in Queens, NYC. Small world.
http://asmaraanddira.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/kew-gardens-1.jpg
LONDON
http://www.transitblogger.com/pictures/KewGardensUnionTurnpike.jpg
NEW YORK

mark
12-31-2009, 05:05 PM
As far as I'm concerned you can hang his damned dog too! And what's with the use of other languages in these quotes? In one quote the word for tomorrow was Spanish while every other word was English. Do these guys think they're being clever? It kept trying to make banana fit when I suddenly remembered an excerpt from one of my favorite cartoons - "Road to El Dorado" - when one of the characters ( I think it was Tulio ) said "row back to Spain like there's no maρana!" If it wasn't for my love of cartoons I think I'd still be going bananas over that one. Sheesh! :confused:

impededredwood
12-31-2009, 11:19 PM
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Lurker
01-03-2010, 05:25 AM
OK, finally found it. Here's the busyness quote, with only a 3.5% solve rate.

When we get too caught up in the busyness of the world we lose connection with one another - and ourselves. - Jack Kornfield

Remember, you've already used the I. There's another quote with this spelling somewhere. If anyone knows it, please post.

LurkerSmurf
01-20-2010, 04:01 AM
Cold hopes swarm like worms within our living clay. - Percy Shelley

6.3% solve rate, 330 second average. Laura's record, 43 seconds.

Angie
01-21-2010, 07:12 PM
I get really frustrated with Alexander Pope's archaic, backward grammatical style. It's like Yoda smoked a fattie and decided to write some poetry. If quotations are worthy of the annals of time I think they should at least be grammatically sound. Forgive me if I have offended any Pope fans but this guy just isn't my cup of tea at all.

"...Yoda smoked a fattie and wrote some poetry..." !! Thought I was going to wet myself!

bansaisequoia
01-22-2010, 02:12 AM
http://recollectionbooks.com/siml/images/yoda-doobie.jpg:p

Lurker
02-07-2010, 03:58 AM
Dios tarda pero no olvida - God delays but doesn't forget.

Partir, c'est mourir un peu. (To leave is to die a little.)

Both listed as Proverbs

Lurker
05-04-2011, 03:39 PM
This one had four of us going last night for over an hour. Hurray to Pootie for finally cracking it!

"Know safety, no injury. No safety, know injury." Unattributed

snappygranny
05-08-2011, 12:42 AM
I guess I am just "under-read" but henry fielding always gets me with this one...took me over 6 minutes!
:confused:
"Thwackum was for doing justice, and leaving mercy to Heaven. "
— Henry Fielding

Who is named Thwackum anyway!

pootie49
09-07-2011, 06:45 PM
who goes aborrowing goes asorrowing

Now I remember that quote being first entered as...
He who goes a'borrowing goes a'sorrowing.

Emphasis on the '

Here is the earliest entry I could find for that quote...
He that goeth a borowynge goeth a sorowynge.
[1545 R. Taverner tr. Erasmus' Adages (ed. 2) 46V]

Later it was changed to include a- and also a', then finally the punctuation was removed.

My beef here is if it was originally entered on the site with the ' in it. Why remove it?
Its a killer quote and its much more recognizeable with the ' than without it.
Please put the ' back in. The avg solve time for that quote is 228 seconds.
I dislike that quote.

Thanks Admin.

Lurker
05-27-2012, 05:57 AM
"The pearl is the queen of gems and the gem of queens." - Unattributed

4.9% solve rate, 283 second average.

Enjoy.

Lily H
05-27-2012, 06:27 AM
I got really stuck on that one and had to ask for help in the chat box. It uses a lot of uncommon letters.

kimmie
06-02-2012, 07:36 AM
"Socialism is Bolshevekism with a shave."

This one gave me such trouble! I have never worked so hard for 10 points! It took me FOREVER.

Barnabas
06-06-2012, 05:56 PM
When I first noticed this thread, I had a few quotes in mind to add to it. But after having read the quotes that have been posted here, it was obvious that those I had in mind were child's play to the solvers who can work these out. How do you even begin:eek: to work some of these puzzles? I see now the reason for the 15 - 20% of puzzles that I fail to solve. Uff da.:o Ben Franklin's quotes consistently give me fits. But, not to sell myself short, I have noticed that I am often able to solve quotes that have only a 15% or so solve rate, and that does boost my confidence.

Barnabas
07-26-2012, 11:50 AM
Here's one that I found difficult, but was ultimately able to solve (though a couple of months ago I'm sure I would have just given up on it). It's from Michaelangelo - "Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle.

maggiemouse
07-26-2012, 01:21 PM
Barnabas - Uff da vida! are you from MN or ND? The most difficult ones for me are ones I can't solve.

wvwoman
07-26-2012, 07:50 PM
hit the = key.

sarahk809
07-27-2012, 05:33 PM
"when no one is" took me forever!

Barnabas
07-27-2012, 07:28 PM
Barnabas - Uff da vida! are you from MN or ND? The most difficult ones for me are ones I can't solve.

I'm from Minnesota. Grew up in northern Iowa. Went south to Texas for some of my college, and then returned to the area I had grown up in. Pretty much a lifer here.:eek:

Barnabas
07-29-2012, 01:00 AM
If you stand straight, do not fear crooked shadows. - I think it was a Chinese proverb. And I don't know if it would qualify as obnoxiously difficult, but it wasn't a gimme either.

thresa
07-29-2012, 01:17 PM
"Weep for the lives your wishes never led" W.H. Auden

"EACH BIRD MUST SING WITH HIS OWN THROAT" Henrik Ibsen

"LARGE LEGISLATIVE BODIES RESOLVE THEMSELVES INTO COTERIES" (I think this one was Unattributed, but I did not make note at the time)

gryhnd51
07-30-2012, 09:00 AM
cogito ergo spud, I think therfore I yam. Graffito
Gonzo leaps like a giraffe and grabs it. Jerry Coleman
Weeping bride, laughing wife, laughing bride, weeping wife. German proverb
dios tarda pero no olvida-god delays but doesn't forget. proverb
He that winna be ruled by the rudder maun be ruled by the rock. proverb
Veni, vidi, velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around. anonymous
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory, no cross, no crown. wm penn

and last but not least:

sow much, reap much; sow little, reap little. proverb

pootie49
07-30-2012, 12:56 PM
"Ethelberta breathed a sort of exclamation, not right out, but stealthily,
like a parson's damn." ~Thomas Hardy

and imho

"Know safety, no injury. No safety, know injury." ~Author Unknown
(hardest quote ever)

**nb...
OMG Beth, the sow reap quote. Holy cowfish...first month trying for a hundred percent,
many moons ago...I got that one. I was baffled. Time was ticking by.
I was pretty new back then, I pm'd Laura...I was in tears LOL LOL. Srsly.
she sent me the solve to it and said oh yes that one stumps everyone.
Now when I get it I still take forever to solve it. But not almost two hours.
I have to say the sow reap is on par with the no safety quote.
thanks for the memory. LOL. grrr. cryin in cryptograms. LOL.

Barnabas
07-31-2012, 08:40 AM
This is where I thank Pootie for reminding me that the thread is called "obnoxiously difficult quotes" and that I should leave the postings here to the truly gifted solvers.:D So often I tell myself not to go swimmin' in them there waters, only to finding myself jumping in the pool just moments later :rolleyes: :p ;)

montyb
07-31-2012, 06:18 PM
Four thousand volumes of metaphysics will not teach us what the soul is. ~ Voltaire

Weeping bride, laughing wife, laughing bride, weeping wife. ~ "Joe" proverb

Lurker
07-31-2012, 10:57 PM
Ooh, I got the weeping bride yesterday. Took for-ev-er!

montyb
08-08-2012, 09:35 PM
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown. ~ William Penn

cleofish
08-09-2012, 01:56 AM
"France was a long despotism tempered by epigrams." Thomas Carlyle

Really hard! Or is it just me? :o

montyb
08-09-2012, 02:40 AM
It is not just you, cleofish. Quotes with proper names of persons or places throw me every time. I'm especially bad at recognizing "England", to the chagrin of a few of my in-laws. :o

Barnabas
08-15-2012, 06:33 AM
"France was a long despotism tempered by epigrams." Thomas Carlyle

Really hard! Or is it just me? :o

Have you seen the pained expression on Carlyle's face in the photo they use of him on this site? I think this quote certainly explains a lot. Maybe he had just finished saying this quote when that picture was taken.:eek: :D

cleofish
08-15-2012, 02:38 PM
Have you seen the pained expression on Carlyle's face in the photo they use of him on this site? I think this quote certainly explains a lot. Maybe he had just finished saying this quote when that picture was taken.:eek: :D

I've just seen it on another of his quotes and I see exactly what you mean. :D

It is not just you, cleofish. Quotes with proper names of persons or places throw me every time. I'm especially bad at recognizing "England", to the chagrin of a few of my in-laws.

Names are difficult. I am English but England and English can still catch me out. I've learned to recognise America, but that comes up quite often. France just looks too much like a normal word. :confused:

mikehallbackhoe
08-21-2012, 07:22 AM
cogito ergo spud, I think therfore I yam. Graffito
Gonzo leaps like a giraffe and grabs it. Jerry Coleman
Weeping bride, laughing wife, laughing bride, weeping wife. German proverb
dios tarda pero no olvida-god delays but doesn't forget. proverb
He that winna be ruled by the rudder maun be ruled by the rock. proverb
Veni, vidi, velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around. anonymous
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory, no cross, no crown. wm penn

and last but not least:

sow much, reap much; sow little, reap little. proverb
I just got that veni, vidi, velcro puzzle. it took me 8 minutes !

Lurker
09-25-2012, 12:13 AM
"I know by my own pot how the others boil." - Proverb

Success rate 11.2%
Average Time 463 seconds
Record 46 seconds by pajarito7

And the bottom end of the bell curve is 2,315 seconds.

You're welcome

Carrot
09-25-2012, 04:11 AM
Unattributed - "Before you advise anyone Be yourself! reassess his character."

Carrot
09-25-2012, 04:16 AM
"Here's to you, as good as you are, And here's to me, as bad as I am. But as good as you are, and as bad as I am, I am as good as you are, as bad as I am." ~ Scottish Proverb

Carrot
09-26-2012, 04:20 AM
Unattributed ~ "It is not how big you are, it's how big you play."

LOL...staring at puzzle....then....in walks my NFL BIG hubby : ) talking about last night's controversial call at Seattle Seahawks game......puzzle solved! God I LOVE him!!!!!!!!

thresa
09-27-2012, 03:14 AM
"Cats conspire to keep us at arm's length." — Frank Perkins

I am glad I was playing in non-competitive mode for this one, because I needed hints.

iltquilt
09-27-2012, 06:38 AM
"False enchantment can last a lifetime." W. H. Auden

Maybe this one is not so difficult for some, but I certainly set a slowest time record on it.

:D

Carrot
09-27-2012, 07:44 PM
Jon Stewart - “The country's twenty-four hour political pundit perpetual panic conflictinator did not cause our problems but its existence makes solving them that much harder."

gryhnd51
09-28-2012, 07:53 AM
"url's are the 800 numbers of the 1990's." by Chris Clark

gryhnd51
09-28-2012, 08:13 AM
"If pedestrians obstacle your path, tootle horn melodiously." Japanese directions for English-speaking drivers

I personally LOVE this one, despite its difficulty.

chopstix
10-17-2012, 07:31 PM
Hello -

The following is what I think it should have been, but even after trying ALL of the "letters remaining" for the one letter left over, nothing worked! So I just gave up and never found out what it should have said!

If you know, please post!

"Safety _eans first aid to the uninsured." - Unattributed

The _ is for the missing letter.

No, "m" did not work :(

I believe the "letters remaining" were: b c g h j k l m p q v w x y z

Also, all of the letters in the quote are repeated at least once except the missing letter and the "h" in the, and the "o" in to.

Thanks!

Carrot
10-17-2012, 10:27 PM
. Safety means first aid to the uninjured.

chopstix
10-18-2012, 06:09 AM
Aaaaah!!!!!! Thank you!

Lurker
12-17-2012, 04:45 AM
I don't know if this one has been mentioned yet, but I've never seen such stats.

"People who rely most on God rely least on themselves." -Lemuel K. Washburn

2.2% success rate
Average time 651 seconds
Record time 11 seconds (bansaisequoia)

wvwoman
12-17-2012, 07:00 AM
lurker, is it perhaps a newer one? that might explain the stats; 'people' is an easy word to spot, so i can't imagine...

WineChick
12-17-2012, 09:14 PM
"I have no name: I am but two days old. What shall I call thee? I happy am, Joy is my name. Sweet joy befall thee! "

"I happy am"???? William Blake, please speak English!!! :eek:

Give me Spanish translated quotes anyday...at least I speak Spanish, not British!

montyb
01-01-2013, 09:10 AM
"Spare your breath to cool your porridge."
— Miguel de Cervantes

contrary
02-14-2013, 07:33 AM
"Stay is a charming word in a friend's vocabulary."

Throw out everything you know about letter frequency. Success rate 12.1 and average time 197 seconds.

montyb
02-16-2013, 03:44 PM
Thanks are justly due for boons unbought. ~~ Ovid

montyb
04-07-2013, 12:00 AM
"Profits are an opinion, cash is a fact." Uattributed (whom else?)

gryhnd51
04-07-2013, 01:45 AM
"Popularity? It's glory's small change" quote by Victor Hugo

nanrich
04-07-2013, 03:32 PM
"Snowmen fall from heaven... unassembled." - Unattributed.

gryhnd51
04-17-2013, 08:50 AM
Hedges between keep friendships green. Proverb

Clever father, clever daughter; clever mother, clever son. Proverb

Sow much, reap much; sow little, reap little. Proverb

Weeping bride, laughting wife; laughing bride, weeping wife. Proverb

He that winna be ruled by the rudder maun be ruled by the rock. Proverb

Do good, reap good; do evil, reap evil. CHinese proverb

Man who waits for roast duck to fly into mouth must wait very, very long time. Chinese Proverb

montyb
04-28-2013, 10:20 PM
"Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work." Just as true today as his five elements of nature; earth, air, fire, water, and quintessence. :confused:

contrary
05-20-2013, 05:18 PM
"At high tide fish eat ants; at low tide ants eat fish. " - Thai Proverb

nevadasmith68
05-26-2013, 10:08 PM
"Stay Low And Keep Moving."

Dennis W Smith

Lurker
06-20-2013, 04:36 AM
I may have already posted this one, since I commented on it.

"In bad fortune hold out, in good hold in." - Proverb

Success rate 10.3%
Average time 635 seconds
Record time 46 seconds (nanrich)

And for those of you who are wondering, my comment was "Well, this one sucks."

montyb
06-23-2013, 04:23 AM
"Immature artists imitate. Mature artists steal. "

— Lionel Trilling

nevadasmith68
06-23-2013, 06:18 PM
"Stay low and keep moving toward your implied destiny."

George Ferber

Barnabas
07-31-2013, 05:49 PM
"Strong lives are motivated by dynamic purposes." - Kenneth Hildebrand

I know, I know... after having seen some of the really difficult quotes listed here, I promised not to post anymore quotes here myself. But I really did struggle with this one.:o

LiveLoveLaugh
07-31-2013, 06:48 PM
"A cat pours his body on the floor like water."
— William Lyon Phelps

Fastest Time 74 sec
My Time 244 sec

montyb
08-01-2013, 08:21 PM
"Pornography is about dominance. Erotica is about mutuality. "

— Gloria Steinem

Barnabas
08-04-2013, 01:48 AM
"A play visibly represents pure existing." - Thornton Wilder

gryhnd51
08-05-2013, 12:39 AM
This one is a real stumper!

"Love is our god. Lets go grab a slushie." by JD

or, alternatively:

"Our love is god. Lets go grab a slushie." by JD

There is no apostrophe in "lets" which makes it soooo much harder to solve.

Barnabas
08-17-2013, 07:37 PM
Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius; will you remember to pay the debt? " - Socrates

I don't know why this one was so difficult for me. I must have at least a half-dozen friends named Asclepius, and another 3 or 4 called Crito.:rolleyes:

wvwoman
08-17-2013, 11:17 PM
This one is a real stumper!

"Love is our god. Lets go grab a slushie." by JD

or, alternatively:

"Our love is god. Lets go grab a slushie." by JD

There is no apostrophe in "lets" which makes it soooo much harder to solve.

good lord--no wonder there are quotes i just can't solve!

wvwoman
08-17-2013, 11:18 PM
Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius; will you remember to pay the debt? " - Socrates

I don't know why this one was so difficult for me. I must have at least a half-dozen friends named Asclepius, and another 3 or 4 called Crito.:rolleyes:

and i reiterate: good lord--no wonder there are quotes i just can't solve!

gryhnd51
08-18-2013, 06:07 AM
That's why- at least some of us- started making lists of those horribly difficult quotes once we had solved them!

Also, folks used to ask for help in the chat room, or by sending a PM to someone. I haven't really seen that in some time.

momof7
08-18-2013, 06:39 AM
Last month, I came upon a quote that killed my 100% solve rate.
I don't remember the details of it, except that it had a word that had one letter, then an apostrophe and it wasn't "o'clock".
Anybody know that quote or what that word could be?
I even tried cheating on a cryptogram solver web site and came up with nothing.
It's a pity that I waited so long to ask all you guys, because now I don't remember any other details.

wvwoman
08-18-2013, 07:14 AM
i remember that quote--and i would've sworn i printed it out...but i can't find it tonight. i'll keep looking. i decided maybe it was a name, but i surely wasn't going to get it, so gave up. (interesting to hear it thwarted a much better player than i!)

momof7
08-18-2013, 09:17 AM
Hi wvwoman!
Thank you for your post.
I too am glad to hear that someone else remembers that quote and also got stuck.
Being that I couldn't solve it, I didn't get to see the percentage of players that were successful, so it's good to hear I wasn't the only one.
Also, thanks for the compliment, but let's get real - you are at number 15 this month and I'm not even in the top 50!
momof7

wvwoman
08-18-2013, 10:09 AM
that's likely only because i have lots of spare time to spend doing what i like!

Lurker
08-18-2013, 10:47 PM
Mom, maybe it was the a'borrowing quote. "He who goes a'borrowing goes a'sorrowing" or something like that. Lily has it on her list.

momof7
08-19-2013, 02:07 AM
Thanks Lurker,
That was probably the one.
Hopefully I'll remember that if I ever come across it again.

wvwoman
08-19-2013, 02:09 AM
i agree, i bet that's it--hopefully we'll remember to do a forum search when we get it again!

Barnabas
08-19-2013, 08:35 AM
Momof7.
I wonder if it wasn't an Irish name? O'Riley... or something along those lines? Don't remember seeing the quote yet, but will be watching for it.

momof7
08-20-2013, 06:06 AM
Thanx for the thought.
It could be, I just don't remember anything about the quote anymore,
which makes it extremely difficult to help me with it of course.
I feel like one of my kids asking for help with some assignment
when they only have a very vague clue of what they are supposed to be doing.
"We're supposed to read something, but I can't remember if the teacher gave us a story to read, or we're supposed to find our own book. Then we answer some questions, or write a summary, or maybe a character sketch...I'm not sure which. It's not due tomorrow, but maybe next week sometime. Can you help me?"

wvwoman
08-20-2013, 06:20 AM
omg, 'mom', that's really funny! and i can relate--as probably many parents can.

sputnick
08-20-2013, 03:29 PM
So, after perusing (lurking) this forum, I headed back out to solve some more cryptos. I almost immediately came up against this quote:

"An excuse is worse than a lie, for an excuse is a lie, guarded" - Alexander Pope

An uncharacteristically simple quote from the quixotic man, but I saw his name and started freaking out. I was typing "o pie" this, "o pie" that. I think it took me a full five minutes to snap myself out of it. Chalk one up for intimidation...

wvwoman
08-20-2013, 04:37 PM
hahaha, i'm 'put off' by certain folks, too! oddly, one of them is ol' ben franklin--i think perhaps because one never knows when it'll be one with thees and thous and thys in it. and i know his are often some of the easiest...nevertheless, if i see his name first, it makes my mind lurch a little and throws me off.

sputnick
08-20-2013, 06:28 PM
"A cat bitten once by a snake dreads even rope."
— Arab Proverb

Success Rate: 15.7%
Average Time: 241 seconds
Record Time: 53 seconds (pootie49)

I'm just glad I came in faster than the 1205 s. slowest time...

wvwoman
08-21-2013, 06:46 AM
Mom, maybe it was the a'borrowing quote. "He who goes a'borrowing goes a'sorrowing" or something like that. Lily has it on her list.

i found the copy i had made of that 'apostrophied' puzzle, and thanks to you, was able to fill it in--yay! and thank you!

"he goes a'sorrowing who goes a'borrowing." --unattributed

now--tell me what it means!

Lurker
08-21-2013, 07:12 PM
Probably that you shouldn't go into debt. Although, the first time I read it I thought it was about borrowing your neighbor's stuff.

wvwoman
08-21-2013, 07:24 PM
Probably that you shouldn't go into debt. Although, the first time I read it I thought it was about borrowing your neighbor's stuff.

aren't you the smarty?!
seriously. i often feel that i know just what things mean--then there are those times (like this one) when i'd probably NEVER get it without help.

anyone have another idea on this quote?

montyb
08-24-2013, 02:55 PM
"A mob is the scum that rises upmost when the nation boils."
— John Dryden

wvwoman
08-24-2013, 06:18 PM
"A mob is the scum that rises upmost when the nation boils."
— John Dryden

you're right--one definitely doesn't want to be reminded of slimy things, first thing in the morning. shiver.

chriscrojam
08-28-2013, 04:06 AM
"Call on god, but row away from the rocks." -Proverb

After taking many minutes to solve this one for the second time I decided I'd better commit it to memory.

nanrich
09-16-2013, 10:27 AM
Apparently others don't find this one hard, but I sure did...

"Seek joy in what you give not in what you get "
— Unattributed

kd3569
09-23-2013, 06:22 PM
Occasionally, I just can't solve a puzzle. I know you can just click on Play and get another puzzle, but how/where can I get the solution to the 'unsolvable'?

wvwoman
09-23-2013, 06:33 PM
you can run it by other players here in the forum--or in the chat box--or if you know the author, try looking up that person on some quote sites. (there's no way to get it from the game itself.) just print it out and work on it at your leisure!

kd3569
09-23-2013, 08:27 PM
Thanks wvwoman, with some I have tried looking at quote sites, but some of the hardest are the ones without an author so I just couldn't find it. I'll try posting here for help and I'll also print, thanks (and good to know that there is no way to get the solution through this site) Wonder if they'd consider an "I give up button"

wvwoman
09-23-2013, 08:32 PM
i'd vote for that button!

kd3569
09-23-2013, 09:01 PM
i'd vote for that button!

Me, too! Who do we tell! :)

wvwoman
09-23-2013, 09:19 PM
good question--maybe try the comment box at the bottom of the page...

gryhnd51
09-24-2013, 10:59 PM
What a terrific idea! I'd vote for an "I give up" button. Write a comment in the box located at the bottom of every page, and it will go straight to the site's administrator.

wvwoman
09-24-2013, 11:07 PM
i can't think of any reason not to have it...can you?

thresa
09-25-2013, 05:56 PM
The only problem would be in how to score the "I give up" and it would have a large effect on how the records are tallied. It seems giving up should result in points being deducted, because if a player did not lose points for giving up, then the challenge of achieving 100% accuracy would become watered-down, and lose its admirability.

wvwoman
09-25-2013, 06:21 PM
ohhhhhhh...well, crumbs.

montyb
09-25-2013, 06:33 PM
Easy, Penfold.

wvwoman
09-25-2013, 07:29 PM
i had to look that one up, montyb--i had never heard of danger mouse!

thresa
09-27-2013, 06:27 PM
When I wrote about the potential problem in scoring with the "I give up" button, I was wishing that someone would answer by showing a way that it could be done. I would enjoy playing "competitively" and still occasionally beg for a clue when my brain started to sizzle and burn. Nowadays, I just play as a guest, because sometimes I want to ask for hints.

wvwoman
09-27-2013, 06:44 PM
why couldn't it be counted the same as any other "pass" when we give up and go on to another question (just counts against our time and earns no points)?
it's the same thing, isn't it? just with a look at the answer.

thresa
09-27-2013, 06:58 PM
Would a "pass" count against your accuracy score?

Lurker
09-27-2013, 07:22 PM
Yes, it would have to. Looking at the answer would deduct a puzzle the same way not finishing it in two hours does.

wvwoman
09-27-2013, 09:54 PM
so there wouldn't really be any difference between an "i give up" and an "i give up--show me the answer," correct?

Lurker
09-28-2013, 09:32 AM
That's what I'm thinking. It's the only fair way.

kd3569
09-28-2013, 06:41 PM
I'm still fairly new to this site, so when I asked the question "what about an 'I quit' button, I didn't completely understand how complicated it would be. I thought it was just a coding chore. But since we can just 'pass' and get another puzzle, we are really just 'quitting'. So seems like it would be simple to just show the solution before passing us on to the next puzzle, all other scoring issues remain the same, no?

wvwoman
09-28-2013, 08:15 PM
exactly--that's how i see it.

Lurker
09-30-2013, 03:53 PM
I finally found the second quote with the spelling "busyness"!

It's by C. Neil Strait and is pretty long. The part you need to get past is...

"Life lived amidst tension and busyness needs leisure." There are two more sentences, but between "amidst" and "busyness", the rest should fall into place.

montyb
10-01-2013, 02:39 PM
"Make money, money by fair means if you can, if not, but any means money."
— Horace


:mad:

wvwoman
10-01-2013, 02:46 PM
that's just WRONG!!!

montyb
10-01-2013, 08:15 PM
"Faultily faultless, icily regular, splendidly null, dead perfection; no more. "
— Alfred Lord Tennyson

Barnabas
11-12-2013, 03:27 PM
Divine Nature gave the fields, human art built the cities. - Marcus Terentius Varro

damsel22
11-14-2013, 05:59 AM
"Then my verse I dishonor, my pictures despise, my person degrade and my temper chastise; and the pen is my terror, the pencil my shame; and my talents I bury, and dead is my fame. "
— William Blake

I think 269 seconds is my worst time ever-and it's rated easy!

Lacon
11-15-2013, 09:38 AM
I think 269 seconds is my worst time ever....

This flabbergasts me. You've never spent 15 minutes squinting at a tough quotation, growning, cussing, pounding your fist on the desk, trying letters at random?

wvwoman
11-15-2013, 11:16 AM
i sure have, lacon. obviously some people have a real knack for these puzzles--i'm not one of those people! i might have a bit of a knack, but not a "real" one.

i used to work and work at a puzzle, but recently i've given that up--now, after a reasonable time, i just give it up and go on to another one. that's what works for me right now--i do these for fun, not to add more stress to my life!

damsel22
11-16-2013, 11:27 AM
I used to spend 10-15 minutes on puzzles way back in the beginning. I was so bad at this that I played as a guest for close to a year before even becoming a member. Now I just spend a reasonable amount of time and move on. I want to have fun and not frustrate myself, and I use this website as a relaxation tool.

gryhnd51
11-17-2013, 12:20 AM
A cat bitten once by a snake dreads even rope. Arab Proverb

REALLY??? Do they have that many cats in Arabia?

tjsrc
11-17-2013, 11:40 PM
A cat bitten once by a snake dreads even rope. Arab Proverb

REALLY??? Do they have that many cats in Arabia?

Well there's the Arabian Mau, Sand Cats are included in that area (freakishly cute things too), Persians are from Iran, which is close enough.
Also:
A recent study conducted on the DNA of a statistically significant sample of domestic cats has shown that cats (over 500 million of them) are probably descended from a sub-species of cat that originally inhabited countries in the Middle East.
--Some cat site

So yeah I bet Arabia has a lot of cats.

jan301
11-23-2013, 07:42 AM
I have discovered that some of the "easy" rated puzzles can be harder to solve than the "difficult" ones!

It takes me a lot of time to figure out where to start?:o

Which leads me into yet another newcomer question, is there a way to get the cursor to automatically go to the first letter of the puzzle, obviously positioning my mouse will do that -- but I am just wondering if there is a keyboard short-cut I can use?

Lurker, the tab doesn't work for my laptop. But I will check the other forum posts for helpful hints, thanks.

AmberRose, I found that equal sign (=) serves to do this. Hope it works for you too.

contrary
11-27-2013, 11:17 AM
In Mexico we have a word for sushi: Bait --Jose Simon.

My head hurts from the vowel combinations.

Barnabas
01-09-2014, 01:33 PM
The phrase "domestic cat" is an oxymoron." - George F. Will

Barnabas
04-03-2014, 11:37 AM
"I myself prefer my New Zealand eggs for breakfast." - Elizabeth II

mikehallbackhoe
04-03-2014, 07:56 PM
I know by my own pot how the others boil - proverb

montyb
04-04-2014, 04:46 AM
Ditto on the eggs, Barnabas.

montyb
04-19-2014, 01:06 PM
I may have already posted this (the gray matter is getting grayer every day), but I really hate this one.

"Make money, money by fair means if you can, if not, but any means money."
— Horace

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

mikehallbackhoe
04-21-2014, 05:01 PM
the poor man's budget is full of schemes. I thought it was bucket, and it took me 29 minutes to figure it out

Barnabas
04-22-2014, 01:15 PM
Striving to better, oft we mar what's well. - William Shakespeare

A 5.2% solve rate, and 9 minutes of my time to figure it out. Uff dah:rolleyes:

LurkerSmurf
04-22-2014, 05:37 PM
Sorry, that's my fault. Last time there was a new batch of quotes, I asked for Shakespeare.

mikehallbackhoe
04-22-2014, 10:51 PM
a pot of milk is ruined by a drop of poison. unattributed

abracadebra
04-23-2014, 12:39 PM
Thanks for the warning, they are definitely more difficult to me than usual.:)

universalmom
04-23-2014, 02:23 PM
abracadebra is a GREAT name :)

Barnabas
04-30-2014, 12:47 PM
"Night's black mantle covers all alike."
-Guillaume de Salluste Du Bartas

A 3% solve rate. I worked this one quite awhile, and after I realized I had as much chance of solving it as I did of striking oil in my back yard I just had to look it up.:o